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Adam LINNEN [Parents] was born on 9 Nov 1791 in Chirnside Parish, Berwick County, Scotland. He was christened on 20 Nov 1791 in Chirnside Parish, Berwick County, Scotland. He died on 13 Nov 1838 in Prescott, Ontario, Canada. He was buried on 14 Nov 1838 in Windmill Battlefield, Windmill Point, Edwardsburgh Twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He married Margaret HUNTER on 1 Dec 1820 in Ogdensburg, Oswegatchie, St. Lawrence Co, New York, USA.

or born Abt 1798

From Patty Hopkinson in 2001:
Adam Linnen, bc 1798, SCOT; d 13 NOV 1838, Battle of the Windmill; m 1 DEC 1820, Ogdensburg, Oswagatchie, St. Lawrence Co., NY, Margaret Hunter. Margaret was the daughter of Andrew Hunter and Margaret Speirs. The Hunters immigrated from Aryshire, Scotland in 1818 and established Hunter Settlement, south of Spencerville. They lived on Lot 22, Concession 5 next to Margaret's parents. Margaret later married to Richard Welch (they had no children). Richard having 2 previous children by an unknown spouse, Jane and Allan. Jane perhaps married George Watson.
Had:
(6)+ David Linnen, b 7 FEB 1821; d 15 JUN 1888
(7)+ Andrew Hunter Linnen, b 18 APR 1823; d 1 DEC 1901; bur St. Andrew's Presbyterian Cemetery.
(8)+ John Linnen, b 1826.
(9)+ Jane (Janet) Linnen, b 1827; d 24 APR 1863; bur St. Andrew's Presbyterian Cemetery.
(10) Margaret Linnen, bc 1828.
(11)+ Robert Linnen, bc 1829.
(12)+ Elizabeth Linnen, b 1832; d 1917.
(13) William Linnen, bc 1835. In 1871 he was living with Richard Walsh (Welsh) and was a stone mason.
(14)+ George Linnen, b 1838; d 6 APR 1900; bur St. Andrew's Cemetery, Edwardsburgh.

http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~database/HUNTER.htm
LINNEN, ADAM / HUNTER, MARGARET
Adam Linnen (a soldier of The Queen in defence of British North America in the Upper Canada Rebellion, a hero of the Battle of the Windmill, etc.) was born in or about 1790 or 1791 at Chirnside Parish, Berwick County, Scotland, son to David Linnen and Elizabeth Dun (or Dunn); christened 20 November 1791 at Chirnside Parish, Berwick County, Scotland; died (killed by insurgent enemy forces) on Active Service at the Battle of the Windmill 13 November 1838 at Windmill Point, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada; buried 14 November 1838 in a trench together with some of his fallen comrades at the Windmill Battlefield, Windmill Point, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada. His wife Margaret Hunter, (to whom he was married 1 December 1820 at Ogdensburg, Oswegatchie Township, St. Lawrence County, New York with John Scott, Justice of the Peace, officiating), was born 25 November 1801 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, daughter to Andrew Hunter and Janet (or Jennet) Spiers (or Speirs), (to whom refer); christened 30 November 1801 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland; married, secondly, in or about 1845, 1846 or 1847, Richard Welsh (Welch or Walsh), (to whom also refer); died 26 March 1886 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. Adam Linnen and Margaret Hunter begat issue:
(1) David Linnen, born 7 February 1821 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 15 June 1888 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, buried in June 1888 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married 11 December 1855, Elizabeth Ann McComb;
(2) Andrew Hunter Linnen, born 18 April 1823 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 1 December 1901 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married 30 July 1844 at Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Canada West, (with the Reverend Robert Boyd, Presbyterian Church, officiating), his first cousin Catherine (Catharine, Katharine or Katherine) "Kitty" Hunter;
(3) John Linnen, born 23 October 1824 (according to some sources and his own statement) or 23 October 1826 (according to some sources) probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 24 March 1904 at or near Cardinal, Grenville County, Ontario, buried in 1904 at Edwardsburgh Township, near Cardinal, Grenville County, Ontario, who married his first cousin Janet (or Jennet) Hunter;
(4) Janet (Jannet or Jennet) Linnen, born in or about 1826 or 1827 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 24 April 1863, buried in 1863 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West, who married James Cameron;
(5) Jane (or Jean) Linnen, died early, unmarried;
(6) Margaret Linnen, died early, unmarried;
(7) Robert Linnen, born in or about 1830 or 1831 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 26 March 1885 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of five days' suffering with inflammation of the lungs, who married 19 December 1864, (with the Reverend William Ferrie, Presbyterian Church, officiating), Sarah Hutchcroft;
(8) Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen, born 20 July 1832 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, bore out of wedlock, prior to marriage, by her own stepfather Richard Welsh (Welch or Walsh), a male child, (for further records of whom refer to the entry labelled "Elizabeth Linnen" in the "Supplementary" Section at the end of Part I. of this work), died 18 October 1918 (not 18 October 1917 as according to some sources and erroneously suggested or indicated upon her tombstone) at Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married John Black;
(9) William Linnen, born 18 March 1833 (according to some sources) or 18 March 1835 (according to some sources and his own statement) probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 22, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died possibly unmarried 2 November 1904 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of a paralytic stroke;
(10) George Linnen (designer and builder of numerous historic structures, etc.), born in or about 1837 or 1838 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 22, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 6 April 1900, buried in 1900 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married Susannah Davis.


The [Hunter] family soon relocated from Prescott to Edwardsburgh, where within the space of the next three years, in 1821 to be precise, they were shortly joined by the eldest daughter Jane, her husband Robert, and the four McLatchie children then born, six more being duly added after emigration. Here it was, too, after a brief time, that the second daughter Margaret met another young neighbouring settler, Adam Linnen by name, whom she subsequently married on the first of December 1820 across the river at Ogdensburg, New York, the ceremony being performed there in consequence of the fact that there was then no authorised person qualified to solemnise the act of matrimony in all the closer territory round about. This same Adam Linnen, whilst serving as a Private Militiaman in the First Regiment of the Grenville Militia under the command of the famous Hugh Munro, later became one of the 13 gallant Canadian volunteers who, together with one regular British officer and one regular soldier, fell in action in mortal combat in defence of freedom at Windmill Point
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Thus it was, then, that on the last day of December in the year 1831, with his son-in-law Adam Linnen, (signing his name "Linen"), as a witness, Andrew Hunter executed at Prescott a most curious document as his Last Will and Testament, (afterward proved by Allan Hunter at Prescott before the famed Robert Headlam on 5 January 1835 following the testator's death), in which he required that prior to the demise of Janet his wife, John and Allan or either of them must settle and take up permanent residence in Upper Canada in order to qualify to claim his property, which would then accordingly devolve upon both or either of them exclusively; failing which it would jointly revert solely to the other two sons Andrew and Thomas, or the survivor of them, instead.
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John shortly took up residence with his brother Thomas on the Sixth Concession whilst Allan temporarily joined his parents on the Fifth with a view to acquiring an adjoining tract in Lot 22 next door, beside his sister Margaret and her husband Adam Linnen.


Adam Linnen?
Full record for Linen, A.
Last Name Linen
First Name A.
Township Edwardsburgh
Atlas Date 1862
Concession and Lot Lot size
V, 22

Dan Linnen?
Full record for Linen, D.
Last Name Linen
First Name D.
Township Edwardsburgh
Atlas Date 1862
Concession and Lot Lot size
V, 20

Any connection?
Full record for Linen, R.
Last Name Linen
First Name R.
Township Edwardsburgh
Atlas Date 1862
Concession and Lot Lot size
VI, 11
IV, 16


Battle of the Windmill - Windmill Point near Prescott in Upper Canada
This article was found pasted into a scrapbook entitled, S1838 Patriot War.T The scrapbook is located at the Flower Memorial Library Genealogy Department at Watertown, New York. This article, one of a series written by L. N. Fuller, was copyrighted in 1923 by the Brockway Company, Publishers of the Watertown Daily Times. The series appeared in the Watertown Daily Times in March, April, and May of 1923. John B. Johnson, Jr., Editor/Co-Publisher of the Watertown Daily Times has granted me permission to incorporate these pieces on my website. I feel very honored to have been given this permission. (Shirley Farone)
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The last known survivor of the Patriot war, certainly the last who came from Northern New York, was the venerable Nelson H. Truax, who died only eight years ago. He took part in the Battle of the Windmill and only his youth saved him from death or banishment. Mr. Truax passed away Jan. 25, 1915, at the home of his daughter, Mrs. A. D. Walrath in Bay City, Mich. in his 98th year. The body was brought to Watertown and it rests in the North Watertown cemetery. His death was the direct result of a fall a few days previous in which his shoulder was broken.
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The animosities caused by the border warfare in 1812 had not died down and when Papineau and MacKenzie, the gifted leader of the revolt in Upper Canada, came to Watertown. Truax allied himself with one of the Hunterus Lodges and attended the almost nightly meetings.
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He joined the ill-fated expedition which set out to capture Prescott and probably embarked at Sackets Harbor or Clayton. At any rate he was among those who followed the brave Von Schoultz and he landed on Canadian soil.
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SFrom ten in the morning until three in the afternoon,T he once said, in telling his experiences, Swe fought and when the British were ordered to charge bayonets you should have seen us Yankees run -- we had no tjavelinsu on our rifles.
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SWe had about half a mile to run to reach the windmill. We had gone about ten rods, when we came to a high rail fence. I had just scaled it and was but a few feet away when one of the militia rushed up, rested his rifle on the top rail and fired at me. This man jumped the fence and was about to put his bayonet through me when a British regular came up and pushed him away, claiming me as his prisoner.
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SWith the other captives I was marched to a temporary fort where my wounds were dressed and the next morning we were put on board a ship and taken to Kingston. We were stowed away in the forecastle, without much room and no place to sit or lie down. We were in damp quarters and had nothing to eat and it was a discouraged and miserable lot of boys and men who comprised the passenger list of that boat.
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SOn arriving at Kingston, we were taken to Fort Henry where we were confined about six months. We were tried before the judge advocate of Upper Canada on the charge of causing the death of her majestyus subjects. We all pleaded not guilty, but of course were found guilty and were sent back to the fort, where we remained several months more.
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SThere we saw out less fortunate comrades marched out to the gallows. I think that thirteen in all, the officers and leaders of the expedition were executed [for murder], including the brave Colonel Von Schoultz and a number of Watertown and Jefferson county men. Queen Victoria took pity on the very young men of the party of whom there were 33, including myself, and she pardoned us and we were allowed to return to our homes. Over 150 of the older ones, however, were transported to Van Diemanus land.T
-http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/chap20.html
(19 Americans are listed as having died in this battle, but there is no list of British/Canadian casualties. it does say of the Americans "Though they had gained a victory, in that they were still in possession of the field and had inflicted far superior losses on the enemy, they knew that their lot was hopeless.")

Updated from Patty Hopkinson in June 2003

Thus it was, then, that on the last day of December in the year 1831, with his son-in-law Adam Linnen, (signing his name "Linen"), as a witness, Andrew Hunter executed at Prescott a most curious document as his Last Will and Testament
- Frederick Hunter

ancestry.ca
1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia
(Province, District, Sub-District) Estimated Birth Year Birthplace View Image
Elizabeth Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1832 Canada
Robert Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1829 Canada
Wm Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1835 Canada
George Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1837 Canada
Andia Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1823 Canada
Cathrine Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1822 Scotland
Elizabeth Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1844 Canada
Margaret Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1846 Canada
Mary Anne Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1849 Canada
Allan Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1851 Canada
Jannet Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1832 Scotland
John Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1825 Canada
Ander Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1850 Canada
David Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh abt 1822 Canada
Andre Linnen Canada West (Ontario), Grenville County, Edwardsburgh


Adam and Margaret were married on December 1, 1820, across the river, at Ogdensburg, Oswegatchie Township, St. Lawrence County, New York with John Scott, Justice of the Peace, officiating .
Unfortunately, at that time, there was no certified minister, or an authorized person in their location to perform the ceremony.
Adam and Margaret had 10 children: David, Andrew, John, Janet, Jane, Margaret, Robert, Elizabeth,
William and George. Of those children, eight survived into adulthood.
Adam and Margaret lived on part of Lot 22, Concession 5, Edwardsburg, adjacent to Margaret’s
parents: Andrew Hunter and Janet Speirs.
Adam Linnen, while serving as a Private Militiaman in the First Regiment of the Grenville Militia,
under the command of Hugh Munro, volunteered along with 13 other Canadians to fend off Americans in the celebrated four-day Battle of the Windmill, Ontario. It was on November 13, 1838
that he was killed in battle, and is buried in a trench together with some of his fallen comrades at
the Windmill Battlefield, Windmill Point, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District,
Upper Canada.
After the death of Adam, Margaret received several generous gifts from The Crown, and eventually
was granted a more fixed and stable widow’s pension in recognition of Adam’s service, but it was
barely adequate to support her huge family.
In 1846, she decided to accept the proposal of Richard Welsh, who was a lifelong friend and native
of Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. He was himself a widower, with two children of his own. In
addition to raising his children, the two also raised Richard Welsh Jr., the product of a relationship
between Richard and Elizabeth Linnen (Adam and Margaret’s daughter).
If you would like to learn more about the Battle of the Windmill, please read:
Guns Across the River: the Battle of the Windmill, 1838, by Donald E. Graves.
So my plan, is to visit soon. I have met many distant cousins online who still live in Scotland and England, they really want to meet me, just as much as I would like to meet them.
Hopefully, all of this will transpire next year around May, but we’ll see
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Katrina Moir

Margaret HUNTER [Parents] was born on 25 Nov 1801 in Old Cumnock Parish, Ayrshire, Scotland. She was christened on 30 Nov 1801 in Old Cumnock Parish, Ayrshire, Scotland. She died on 26 Mar 1886 in Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She married Adam LINNEN on 1 Dec 1820 in Ogdensburg, Oswegatchie, St. Lawrence Co, New York, USA. Margaret was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 4 Nov 2000 in DENVE.

Other marriages:
WELSH, Richard

://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~database/HUNTER.htm
(5) Margaret Hunter, born 25 November 1801 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 30 November 1801 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 26 March 1886 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married, firstly, 1 December 1820 at Ogdensburg, Oswegatchie Township, St. Lawrence County, New York, (with John Scott, Justice of the Peace, officiating), Adam Linnen (a soldier of The Queen in defence of British North America in the Upper Canada Rebellion, a hero of the Battle of the Windmill, etc.), and, secondly, in or about 1845, 1846 or 1847, Richard Welsh (Welch or Walsh);
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the second daughter Margaret met another young neighbouring settler, Adam Linnen by name, whom she subsequently married on the first of December 1820 across the river at Ogdensburg, New York, the ceremony being performed there in consequence of the fact that there was then no authorised person qualified to solemnise the act of matrimony in all the closer territory round about. This same Adam Linnen, whilst serving as a Private Militiaman in the First Regiment of the Grenville Militia under the command of the famous Hugh Munro, later became one of the 13 gallant Canadian volunteers who, together with one regular British officer and one regular soldier, fell in action in mortal combat in defence of freedom at Windmill Point along the riverfront on the banks of the St. Lawrence, fending off the rebel American brigands in the celebrated four-day Battle of the Windmill there, his death occurring in meritorious circumstances at the height of the bloody fray on that fateful Tuesday, 13 November 1838. Adam fell beside a pigsty and, although left much mutilated by the swine, it is not known whether at the time the mauling began he was alive or dead. Eight of their children survived childhood, the youngest being George Linnen, a mere infant at the time of his father's heroic though tragic and untimely death, and afterward the master stonemason who constructed both the Presbyterian and Roman Catholic churches at Spencerville. So sturdy were the walls he erected with his own hands that they endured and withstood even the fiery conflagration which engulfed St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church nearly a century after its completion, standing gutted but intact, and in the newly-reconstructed interior today a plaque has been mounted to the memory of this durable builder of a bygone era. Nearly eight years after Adam Linnen paid the supreme sacrifice and laid down his life for Queen and country his widow Margaret Hunter remarried, this time another Cumnock native, Richard Welsh, a widower with a son and daughter of his own, and she reared also these children of his previous marriage.
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On the birth registration of Mary Elizabeth Watson in Nov 1873, she might be "Mrs. Hunter".

FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
MARGARET HUNTER Female
Christening: 30 NOV 1801 Old Cumnock, Ayr, Scotland
Father: ANDREW HUNTER
Mother: JANET SPIERS
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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C116102 1704 - 1706 1041402 Film 6900543 Film
C116102 1718 - 1820 1041402 Film 6900543 Film

Name : Margaret Linnen
Death date : 26 Mar 1886 Age at death : 85 years Death place : Ontario
Birth date : 1801 Estimated birth year : 1801
Birth place : Gender : Female Marital status : Spouse name : Spouse titles : Father name :
Father titles : Mother name : Mother titles :
GSU film number : 1853482 Digital GS number : 4033012 Image number : 104
Reference number : 571 Collection : Ontario Deaths 1869-1947
[So Margaret used the name Margaret Linnen at the time of death]

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=darliene_mueller&id=I6671
Margaret HUNTER b: 29 NOV 1801 in Little Auchengibber, Old Cumnock, Ayrshire, Scotland

Bill
I agree with your conclusion that the mother of Jane & Allan WELSH is possibly
Margaret (formerly LINNEN born HUNTER)
The son with 1st name Allan may be a clue.
Scottish families seem to in those times named children after relatives.
The SAMSON family, who I am connected to, did not use this name.
A quick review of IGI and the 1851 Census for Ayrshire show nothing for WELSH family.
However viewing your database I see Margaret (formerly LINNEN born HUNTER) had a brother named Allan. Perhaps Allan WELSH is named after him.
Alastair

Bill,
The possibility may even be worthy of consideration that Margaret and Richard were never actually married at all, and she merely assumed his name for reasons of appearance, - hence her death in 1886 being registered under her legal name, Margaret Linnen. By this means she may have been able to preserve her pension rights. It might be interesting to try to determine just how long the pension continued to be paid. In such a scenario it would not surprise me if Jane and Allan were in fact her illegitimate offspring!
Thus we might also question whether or not Richard Welsh had been previously married at all!
Sincerely,
Frederick

Frederick,
This is the simplest scenario. It fits together well in light of the known information. I will consider it the most probable explanation until contrary information surfaces.
Bill
18 Aug 2010

Bill,
It seems to me that if pension payment records could be found, this could be the key to determining whether Margaret was cohabiting with but not married to Richard.
It is interesting to note that Allan Welsh acted as a witness at the marriage of my great-grandparents John Hunter and Jane Ann Elbare. They were always close, like cousins, and Allan afterward married a younger Margaret Hunter, who was another cousin.
If Jane and Allan were indeed Margaret's children, then you and I become cousins as well.
But the one question which goes against this line of thinking is: If Margaret was living with and bearing children to Richard as early as 1842, why did she claim in 1844 to be in such dire straits? Perhaps this may have been largely window-dressing for the Government's consumption; or perhaps she had submitted this claim before the liaison with Richard, and it took several years to process.
I have to say there seems to have been an inordinate number of strange relationships and living arrangements, as well as illegitimacies, and even incest, going on all throughout the countryside in those days, so nothing would really surprise me.
Frederick

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:02 PM, frederick hunter wrote:
Bill,
It seems to me that if pension payment records could be found, this could be the key to determining whether Margaret was cohabiting with but not married to Richard.
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It is interesting to note that Allan Welsh acted as a witness at the marriage of my great-grandparents John Hunter and Jane Ann Elbare. They were always close, like cousins, and Allan afterward married a younger Margaret Hunter, who was another cousin.
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If Jane and Allan were indeed Margaret's children, then you and I become cousins as well.
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But the one question which goes against this line of thinking is: If Margaret was living with and bearing children to Richard as early as 1842, why did she claim in 1844 to be in such dire straits? Perhaps this may have been largely window-dressing for the Government's consumption; or perhaps she had submitted this claim before the liaison with Richard, and it took several years to process.
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I have to say there seems to have been an inordinate number of strange relationships and living arrangements, as well as illegitimacies, and even incest, going on all throughout the countryside in those days, so nothing would really surprise me.
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Frederick

Frederick,
I hate to say it, but if Margaret was cohabitating with Richard, I suspect he would find any ruse that was to his advantage. I have seen cases where very respectable people lied on official documents when they thought it was in their interest to do so. My widowed great aunt gave her first husband's parents' names as her own parents' names when she remarried. Why?
My understanding is that in Manitoba it was illegal for first cousins to marry, and her second husband happened to be a first cousin. She was a woman well known for her acts of charity, and was one of the pillars of her community, but she lied on her marriage papers!
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"But the one question which goes against this line of thinking is: If Margaret was living with and bearing children to Richard as early as 1842, why did she claim in 1844 to be in such dire straits? Perhaps this may have been largely window-dressing for the Government's consumption; or perhaps she had submitted this claim before the liaison with Richard, and it took several years to process."
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Thank you so much, both of you. It has been somewhat of a challenge, and it definitely "shook the family tree". I appreciate the help in sorting this out. We may not yet have the full version of my ggm's story, but it is a fuller version of the story than we started out with.
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Frederick, thanks for thinking of me when Alastair was looking for answers. All I can say to both of you is thank you! Keep up the good work.
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Bill

1852 / Canada West / Grenville (county) / 101 Edwardsburgh township / p. 19d, 20a, (149)
28 Welsh, Richard Farmer Scotland Presbyterian Free Church 43 M
29 Welsh, Margaret Scotland Presbyterian Free Church 51 F
30 Linnen, Elizabeth Canada Presbyterian Free Church 20 F
31 Linnen, Robert Canada Presbyterian Free Church 23 M
32 Linnen, Wm Canada Presbyterian Free Church 17 M
33 Linnen, George Canada Presbyterian Free Church 15 M
34 Welsh, Jane Canada Presbyterian Free Church 11 F
35 Welsh, Allan Canada Presbyterian Free Church 8 M

Is this a different Margaret? It seems unlikely.
1852 / Canada West / Grenville (county) / 101 Edwardsburgh township / p. 21d, 22a, (153)
Line Name Occupation Place of Birth Religion Residence if out of limits Age Sex
1 Hunter, Margaret Scotland Presbyterian Free Church 54 F
2 Linnen, Jannet Scotland Presbyterian Free Church 20 F
3 Linnen, John Canada Presbyterian Free Church 27 M
4 Linnen, Andrew Canada Presbyterian Free Church 2 M
5 Linnen, David Farmer Canada Presbyterian Free Church 30 M

They had the following children:

  M i David S. LINNEN
  M ii Andrew Hunter LINNEN
  M iii John LINNEN
  F iv Janet LINNEN
  F v Jane LINNEN was born about 1827 in Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Does Jane exist or is she really Janet? Frederick Hunter lists them both.
" (5) Jane (or Jean) Linnen, died early, unmarried"
  F vi Margaret LINNEN was born about 1828 in of Ontario, Canada.

(6) Margaret Linnen, died early, unmarried
  M vii Robert LINNEN
  F viii Elizabeth LINNEN
  M ix William LINNEN was born on 18 Mar 1835 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 2 Nov 1904 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Probably unmarried.

In 1871 he was living with Richard Walsh (Welsh) and was a stone mason.

1871 Census of Canada Edwarsburg, Grenville South film C10004 page 63
Walsh, Richard M 60 Scotland C. Preby Scotch Farmer M
" Margaret F 69 " " " M
" Allen M 27 Ontario " "
Linnen, William M 36 " " " Stone Mason
Walsh, Richard M 16 " " "
Walsh, Walsh M 13 " " "



Which William and Margaret Linnen are these?
automatedgenealogy.com
1901 census of Canada
District: ON GRENVILLE (South/Sud) (#63) Subdistrict: Prescott (Town/Ville) d-4 Page 15
2 160 Linen Margaret F Head W Sep 15 1836 64
3 160 Linen William M Son S May 1 1873 27

Name: William Linnen
Death date: 02 Nov 1904
Age at death: 71 years
Death place: Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario
Estimated birth year: 1833
Birth place: Edwardsburg
Gender: Male
GSU film number: 1854285 Digital GS number: 4174742 Image number: 241
Reference number: yr 1904 cn 15850 Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947
  M x George LINNEN

Andrew HUNTER [Parents] was born in 1764 in North Catrine, Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland. He was christened on 26 Feb 1764 in North Catrine, Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland. He died about Dec 1834 in Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. He married Janet SPIERS on 21 Sep 1792 in Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr, Scotland.

http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~database/HUNTER.htm
The first in the direct line of this Branch of the Hunter race to set foot upon the shores of the New World was Andrew Hunter, a native of the Parish of Sorn and at the time of emigration a resident of the Parish of Old Cumnock, both in the County of Ayr on the West Lowland coast of Scotland. Descended on his father's side from the ancient and noble Ayrshire House and Family of Hunter of Hunterston, Andrew was formally christened according to the rites and ceremonies of the Established Kirk of Scotland at Sorn on 26 February 1764, being the firstborn son and second child to John Hunter and Margaret Patrick who had been married there on 6 May preceding and who at the time of his birth were residing at North Catrine in that Parish. In accordance with an old traditional Scots custom and practice staunchly observed and adhered to by the Hunters until 1880 even in Canada, Andrew, as the eldest son, bore his paternal grandfather's forename.

At a date likewise uncertain but undoubtedly well prior to 1781, in consequence of their having foreseen the gradual but eventual and indeed altogether inevitable swallowing-up of their lands and home at North Catrine on the north bank of the River Ayr by the expansion of the proposed new industrial village of Catrine, the family removed from Sorn Parish to the nearby Parish of Old Cumnock where they occupied the property there known, then as now, as Little Auchengibbert.

It was whilst dwelling in this latter place that young Andrew met and eventually married, on 21 September 1792, his wife of more than 40 years, Janet Spiers, or Speirs. The couple in due course produced a family of eight children, all of whom survived to achieve adulthood and all of whom finally reached Canada to settle, like their parents, in Edwardsburgh Township in what was then still part of the old Municipal District of Johnstown in the Province of Upper Canada. These eight were: Jane or Jean, born probably at Old Cumnock Parish, 29 March 1793; John, christened at Auchinleck, 23 November 1794; and, all born probably at Old Cumnock Parish, Andrew, 25 April 1797; Allan, 22 April 1799; Margaret, 25 November 1801; Mary, 11 May 1804; Thomas, 1 September 1806; and Christian, 22 January 1810. Of these, all save Thomas yet have living descendants today scattered across the length and breadth of the North American continent, and some have even returned beyond the seas.

Upon the 18th day of April in the year 1818 Andrew and Janet, together with five of their eight children, set sail from the Port of Edinburgh, whither they had previously resorted in order to obtain and secure passage, bound for a new home in British North America. Jane, who had already married at Cumnock on 2 July 1813 another native of the same place, one Robert McLatchie, at this time remained behind with her husband and young family, as also did her two younger brothers John and Allan, both as yet unmarried. The family travelled aboard an old sailing vessel and the voyage was a most turbulent and hazardous one, beset as it was with high winds, violent storms and rough, heaving seas, so much so in fact that the weary passengers more than once had great cause to fear for their very lives; but at long last the little party finally reached the Gulf of St. Lawrence, entered the mouth of the mighty river bearing the same name, and, awestruck at its magnificence, progressed upriver to Montreal where they boarded smaller barges or vessels, which craft were necessary to carry them on the final stages of the arduous ordeal. The remainder of the lengthy journey proved comparatively calm and uneventful, and in due course the beleaguered group of travellers made the final docking and stepped ashore onto the soil of Upper Canada just below the present Forwarders' Museum at Prescott, which building was even then already standing, one day sometime late in the month of July 1818. During the entire three months' time the crossing had occupied whilst making their way to this new land, 21-year-old Andrew Jr., with an eye to the future and a sense of historic mission, had meticulously recorded a journal of the day-to-day proceedings and experiences for the edification and benefit of posterity, and at one point even noted his surprise at sighting a starling unusually far out at sea. When at a later date in another of his writings he once referred to his father as having been, prior to leaving Scotland, the "oldest man of the name of Hunter in all the land", he was most probably making reference not so much to his mere chronological age, actually only 54, but rather, more likely, to the fact that the senior line of Hunterston had by then passed into female representation, being at the time in possession of an Heiress.

The family soon relocated from Prescott to Edwardsburgh, where within the space of the next three years, in 1821 to be precise, they were shortly joined by the eldest daughter Jane, her husband Robert, and the four McLatchie children then born, six more being duly added after emigration. Here it was, too, after a brief time, that the second daughter Margaret met another young neighbouring settler, Adam Linnen by name, whom she subsequently married on the first of December 1820 across the river at Ogdensburg, New York, the ceremony being performed there in consequence of the fact that there was then no authorised person qualified to solemnise the act of matrimony in all the closer territory round about. This same Adam Linnen, whilst serving as a Private Militiaman in the First Regiment of the Grenville Militia under the command of the famous Hugh Munro, later became one of the 13 gallant Canadian volunteers who, together with one regular British officer and one regular soldier, fell in action in mortal combat in defence of freedom at Windmill Point


Andrew Hunter (at whose residence the famed Reverend Robert Boyd conducted the first services of the congregation of St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church, Spencerville and in whose honour and memory said church was subsequently named, etc.) was born in 1764 probably at North Catrine, Sorn Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, son to John Hunter and Margaret Patrick, (to whom refer); christened 26 February 1764 at Sorn, Sorn Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland; died in late 1834 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 21, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada. His wife Janet (or Jennet) Spiers (or Speirs), (to whom he was married 21 September 1792 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland), died in or about 1849 or 1850 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West. This couple begat issue: (1) Jane (or Jean) Hunter, born 29 March 1793 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 31 March 1793 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 11 April 1867 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 13, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West, buried in 1867 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West, who married 2 July 1813 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, Robert McLatchie (McClatchie or M'Clatchie); (2) John Hunter, born in 1794, christened 23 November 1794 at Auchinleck, Auchinleck Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 14 October 1860 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 21, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West in consequence of "general decline", buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West, who married 11 July 1820 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, Margaret Linton; (3) Andrew Hunter, born 18 April 1797 (according to some sources and his tombstone) or 25 April 1797 (according to Registers of the Parish of Old Cumnock) probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 30 April 1797 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 8 October 1870 in The Hunter Settlement, specifically on Lot 22, Concession 6, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of three days' suffering with a malady designated or referred to by his personal physician only as "dooper" but elsewhere described or defined by family members as dropsy or senile debility (a term indicative of the physical effects of advanced age), buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married in or about 1826 or 1827, Isabella Ramage; (4) Allan Hunter (Councillor, Deputy Reeve and Reeve of the Township of Edwardsburgh, Counties Councillor of the United Counties of Leeds and Grenville, Justice of the Peace, President of the Edwardsburgh Agricultural Society and the Spencerville Fair, a founding member of the Liberal Party of Canada, etc.), born 22 April 1799 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 1 May 1799 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 27 October 1877 probably at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married, firstly, 19 July 1822 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, Elizabeth (or Elisabeth) Chessy (Chessie, Chesny or Chesney), and, secondly, 11 March 1833 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, Margaret Black; (5) Margaret Hunter, born 25 November 1801 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 30 November 1801 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 26 March 1886 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married, firstly, 1 December 1820 at Ogdensburg, Oswegatchie Township, St. Lawrence County, New York, (with John Scott, Justice of the Peace, officiating), Adam Linnen (a soldier of The Queen in defence of British North America in the Upper Canada Rebellion, a hero of the Battle of the Windmill, etc.), and, secondly, in or about 1845, 1846 or 1847, Richard Welsh (Welch or Walsh); (6) Mary "May" Hunter, born 11 May 1804 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 16 May 1804 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 30 November 1896 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of one day's suffering with paralysis, presumably precipitated by a stroke, who married in or after 1821 but not later than early 1826, William Smail (Councillor, Deputy Reeve and Reeve of the Township of Edwardsburgh, Counties Councillor of the United Counties of Leeds and Grenville, a founding member of the Liberal Party of Canada, etc.); (7) Thomas Hunter, born 1 September 1806 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 14 September 1806 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died probably unmarried but in any case without surviving spouse or issue prior to 12 August 1844 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 22, Concession 6, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Canada West; (8) Christian (Christiana, Christina or Christena) Hunter, born 22 January 1810 probably at Little Auchengibbert, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, christened 4 March 1810 at Cumnock, Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr County, Scotland, died 21 April 1890 at Delaware Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, who married in or after 1836, Charles Lewis.

Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:05:07 -0700
From: frederick hunter
Subject: Janet (Spiers) Hunter
Dear Bill,
I write to clarify an apparent anomaly which has lately arisen.
It seems that somehow, I know not how, there has been released and introduced into general circulation a fallacious notion that the name of Andrew Hunter's wife may have been Margaret rather than Janet.
I am aware of no original primary source whatever to substantiate this claim. Indeed every extant record makes abundantly clear that she was Janet.
The marriage entry at Old Cumnock shows her as Janet. The christening record of every one of her eight children identifies her as Janet. And the will of her husband Andrew in Upper Canada further refers to her as Janet. There was never any mention of her being anything other than Janet.
Family tradition also holds and asserts that the emigrants ancestors were Andrew and Janet.
Inasmuch as this was my great-great-great-great-grandmother, I should like to nip in the bud any further propagation of this erroneous rumour.
Thank you for your attention and help.
Frederick

The
Hunter Family immigrated to Canada from Ayrshire, Scotland in the spring of 1818 and established a
settlement south of Spencerville, Ontario called the Hunter Settlement.
- Katrina Moir

Janet SPIERS was born about 1770 in of Old Cumnock Parish, Ayrshire, Scotland. She died in 1849 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She married Andrew HUNTER on 21 Sep 1792 in Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr, Scotland.

It was whilst dwelling in this latter place that young Andrew met and eventually married, on 21 September 1792, his wife of more than 40 years, Janet Spiers, or Speirs. The couple in due course produced a family of eight children, all of whom survived to achieve adulthood and all of whom finally reached Canada to settle, like their parents, in Edwardsburgh Township in what was then still part of the old Municipal District of Johnstown in the Province of Upper Canada. These eight were: Jane or Jean, born probably at Old Cumnock Parish, 29 March 1793; John, christened at Auchinleck, 23 November 1794; and, all born probably at Old Cumnock Parish, Andrew, 25 April 1797; Allan, 22 April 1799; Margaret, 25 November 1801; Mary, 11 May 1804; Thomas, 1 September 1806; and Christian, 22 January 1810. Of these, all save Thomas yet have living descendants today scattered across the length and breadth of the North American continent, and some have even returned beyond the seas.
...
Thus it was, then, that on the last day of December in the year 1831, with his son-in-law Adam Linnen, (signing his name "Linen"), as a witness, Andrew Hunter executed at Prescott a most curious document as his Last Will and Testament, (afterward proved by Allan Hunter at Prescott before the famed Robert Headlam on 5 January 1835 following the testator's death), in which he required that prior to the demise of Janet his wife, John and Allan or either of them must settle and take up permanent residence in Upper Canada in order to qualify to claim his property, which would then accordingly devolve upon both or either of them exclusively; failing which it would jointly revert solely to the other two sons Andrew and Thomas, or the survivor of them, instead.

Subject: Janet (Spiers) Hunter


Dear Bill,

I write to clarify an apparent anomaly which has lately arisen.

It seems that somehow, I know not how, there has been released and
introduced into general circulation a fallacious notion that the name of
Andrew Hunter's wife may have been Margaret rather than Janet.

I am aware of no original primary source whatever to substantiate this
claim. Indeed every extant record makes abundantly clear that she was
Janet.

The marriage entry at Old Cumnock shows her as Janet. The christening
record of every one of her eight children identifies her as Janet. And the
will of her husband Andrew in Upper Canada further refers to her as Janet.
There was never any mention of her being anything other than Janet.

Family tradition also holds and asserts that the emigrants ancestors were
Andrew and Janet.

Inasmuch as this was my great-great-great-great-grandmother, I should like
to nip in the bud any further propagation of this erroneous rumour.

Thank you for your attention and help.

Frederick

This might be her, but 30 miles was a long way:
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 for Janet Spear
Name Janet Spear
Gender Female
Baptism/Christening Date 22 Jul 1768
Baptism/Christening Place , BARR BY GIRVAN, AYR, SCOTLAND
Birth Date
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name Gilbert Spear
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11580-2
System Origin Scotland-VR
Source Film Number 1041333
Reference Number - 2:15DSG5C

They had the following children:

  F i Jane or Jean HUNTER
  M ii John HUNTER
  M iii Andrew HUNTER
  M iv Allan HUNTER
  F v Margaret HUNTER
  F vi Mary HUNTER
  M vii Thomas HUNTER was born on 1 Sep 1806 in Old Cumnock Parish, Kyle District, Ayr, Scotland. He was christened on 14 Sep 1806 in Old Cumnock, Ayr, Scotland. He died before 12 Aug 1844 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

probably never married, died without children
  M viii Christian or Christiana HUNTER

John BLACK was born in 1833 in Augusta, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 17 Jun 1914 in Prescott, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He married Elizabeth LINNEN on 3 May 1859 in Ogdensburg, New York, USA.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onleedsg/research-newspaper-gren_stlaw_1860.html
Black, John
Married at the Baldwin House hotel in Ogdensburg May 3, 1859 by J. C. Barter, JP, John Black to Miss Elizabeth Linen, both of Edwardsburgh, Ont.
May 3, 1859. Source: 7
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Black, John
Married at the Baldwin House hotel in Ogdensburg May 3, 1859 by James C. Barter, JP, John Black to Miss Elizabeth Linen, both of Edwardsburgh, Ont.
May 10, 1859. Source: 11

Bill, regarding the John Black that married Elizabeth Linnen, I found the following record in the same vicinity that I found the mother, Margaret Hunter and Richard Welch:
Household Record 1881 Canadian Census
Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion
John BLACK M Male Scottish 52 Scotland Farmer Presbyterian
Elizabeth BLACK M Female Scottish 49 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Margurite BLACK Female Scottish 29 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Hugh BLACK Male Scottish 21 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Christina BLACK Female Scottish 16 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Nellie BLACK Female Scottish 14 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Frances BLACK Male Scottish 12 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Jessie BLACK Female Scottish 10 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Source Information: Census Place Edwardsburg, Grenville South, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375866, NA Film Number C-13230
District 106, Sub-district C, Division 2, Page Number 59, Household Number 258
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The ages are right for our John and Elizabeth, but there are more children than in our records:
Margurite, Christina, Nellie, Frances, and Jessie are not in our records.
Hugh is the right age for our Hugh.
Adam we know died in 1869.
But James has disappeared, and should be still alive and young enough to be living at home.
I did find a James E. Black of the right age going to school in Toronto, and living with D. N. and Elisabeth Black (no other children). But since the 1881 census doesn't include relationships, it is impossible to tell if he is their child or a relative staying with them.
Barry Snider


(1) Hugh Black, born in or about 1859 or 1860, died 26 April 1900, buried in 1900 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married Maria Catherine Hoye;
(2) Adam Linnen Black, born in or about 1861 or 1862, died early, unmarried, 9 April 1865, buried in 1865 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West;
(3) Christina (Christena, Christiana or Christian) Hunter "Tina" Black, born in or about 1863 or 1864, died unmarried in 1946, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario;
(4) Elizabeth W. Black, born in or about 1864 or 1865, died early, unmarried, 20 November 1866, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West;
(5) Helen (Hellen or Ellen) F. "Nellie" Black, born in or about 1865 or 1866, died unmarried 28 June 1885 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of six months' suffering with "congestion of the brain", buried in 1885 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario;
(6) James Archibald Black, born in or about 1867 or 1868, died unmarried in 1931, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario;
(7) Jessie Black, born in August 1870;
(8) Rachel D. Black, born in 1872, died in infancy, unmarried, in 1872, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario.

Ontario Births
Jennett Stewart Black 24 Jul 1870 Female Leeds John Black Elizabeth Lennen
Rachel Duff Black 15 Apr 1872 Female Leeds John Black Elizabeth Lennan

Edwardsburgh Township History, Edwardsburgh Historians, 971.373 EDW in Stanley A Milner Library, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
John Simons, cooper lived on Bouseville road. Danial Simons did fine carpently work until the 1920s.
[obviously a different John Simons but probably related.]
p. 227
Cowdreys' Hill or Glen Smail
1818 George Washington Cowdrey
1819 Abdrew and Janet Spiers Hunter
1819 Mary Hunter married William Smail
A third daughter, Margaret [Hunter] married Adam Linnen, who had purchased the west half of Lot 22 Concession 5 on Pittston Road in 1833. After Adam's death she married Richard Welsh who lived in the stone house on Cowdrey's Hill facing Pittston Road.
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Store on the SE corner was constructed by Andrew Linnen
p. 230 Richard Welsh and John Linnen were custromers of Andrew Smail
p. 260 photo of John Black (in a full white beard) and Andrew Linnen
p. 284 Billy Linnen Road ... now a lovers' lane
p. 247 In the late 1860s George Linnen purchased part of L18 C6. George was a stone mason and built his home, now known as Lone Oak. He worked on St Andrews Presbyterian church and St Laurence O'toole church at Spencerville.

Name: John Black
Death date: 17 Jun 1914
Estimated death year:
Age at death: 81 years
Death place: Prescott, Grenville, Ontario
Birth date: 1833
Estimated birth year: 1833
Birth place: Augusta
Gender: Male
Marital status: Widowed [not true if Elizabeth died in 1917]
Father name: Black
Mother name: Margaret Hunter [Elizabeth's mother]
GSU film number: 1861975
Digital GS number: 4035465
Image number: 1634
Reference number: yr 1914 cn 19091
Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947

Possibly him in 1861 census?
Name: John Black Gender: Male Census Place: Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario
Age: 34y Estimated Birth Year: 1827 Birthplace: Scotland
Marital Status: Married Religion: Free Ch Page Number: 81
Line Number: 11 Film Number: 2435849 LAC Film Number: C-1025-1026
Digital Folder Number: 4391934 Image Number: 00298
Collection: Ontario Census, 1861

Name: John Black Gender: Male Age: 44
Calculated Birth Year: 1827 Country or Province of Birth: Scotland
Marital Status: Married Ethnic Origin: Scotch Religion: C Prsb
Census Place: 03, Edwardsburg c, South Grenville 69, Ontario
Page Number: 5 Line Number: 19 House Number: 18
Family Number: 18 Film Number: 4396626
Library and Archives Canada Film Number: C-10004
Digital Folder Number: 4396626 Image Number: 00192
Collection: Canada Census, 1871

Name: John Black Gender: Male Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: 1827 Birthplace: Scotland Marital Status: Married
Religion: Free Church Province: Ontario District: Grenville South
District Number: 66 Sub-District: Edwardsburg
Library and Archives Canada Film Number: 30953_148139
Collection: Canada Census, 1891

Elizabeth LINNEN [Parents] "Lizzie" was born on 20 Jul 1832 in of Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Twp, Johnstown Md, Ontario, Canada. She died on 18 Oct 1917 in Spencerville, Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She married John BLACK on 3 May 1859 in Ogdensburg, New York, USA.

Other marriages:
WELSH, Richard

BLACK, HUGH / HOYE, MARIA CATHERINE
Hugh Black was born in or about 1859 or 1860, son to John Black and Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen, (to whom refer); died 26 April 1900; buried in 1900 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. His wife was Maria Catherine Hoye. This couple begat issue: (1) Hugh J. Black, born in 1899, died unmarried in or about 1983 or 1984.


BLACK, JOHN / LINNEN, ELIZABETH
John Black was born in or about 1828 or 1829; married, firstly, Agnes Hood; died in 1914; buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. His second wife Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen was born 20 July 1832 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, daughter to Adam Linnen and Margaret Hunter, (to whom refer); bore out of wedlock, prior to marriage, by her own stepfather Richard Welsh (Welch or Walsh), (to whom also refer), a male child, (for further records of whom refer to the entry labelled "Elizabeth Linnen" in the "Supplementary" Section at the end of Part I. of this work); died 18 October 1918 (not 18 October 1917 as according to some sources and erroneously suggested or indicated upon her tombstone) at Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. In addition to the upbringing of some children of the Husband's previous marriage, whose names are also listed on the family tombstone, John Black and Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen also begat issue: (1) Hugh Black, born in or about 1859 or 1860, died 26 April 1900, buried in 1900 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married Maria Catherine Hoye; (2) Adam Linnen Black, born in or about 1861 or 1862, died early, unmarried, 9 April 1865, buried in 1865 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West; (3) Christina (Christena, Christiana or Christian) Hunter "Tina" Black, born in or about 1863 or 1864, died unmarried in 1946, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; (4) Elizabeth W. Black, born in or about 1864 or 1865, died early, unmarried, 20 November 1866, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West; (5) Helen (Hellen or Ellen) F. "Nellie" Black, born in or about 1865 or 1866, died unmarried 28 June 1885 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of six months' suffering with "congestion of the brain", buried in 1885 at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; (6) James Archibald Black, born in or about 1867 or 1868, died unmarried in 1931, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; (7) Jessie Black, born in August 1870; (8) Rachel D. Black, born in 1872, died in infancy, unmarried, in 1872, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario.

LINNEN, ELIZABETH
Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen was born 20 July 1832 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, daughter to Adam Linnen and Margaret Hunter, (to whom refer); married John Black, (to whom also refer); died 18 October 1918 (not 18 October 1917 as according to some sources and erroneously suggested or indicated upon her tombstone), at Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen produced out of wedlock, prior to marriage, by her own stepfather Richard Welsh (Welch or Walsh), (to whom likewise also refer), issue:
(1) Richard Welsh Jr. (entrepreneur, capitalist, donor of the Perpetual Care Endowment Trust Fund for permanent maintenance of St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, etc.), born 20 November 1854 (according to some sources and his tombstone) or 20 November 1855 (according to some sources and his own statement), brought up as their own child by the said Richard Welsh and his wife Margaret Hunter, assuming and bearing from infancy the said surname Welsh, died unmarried in 1922 in consequence of a fire at his residence, buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario.

[Interesting ... it lists her parents as Wm. & Elizabeth Linnen instead of Adam Linnen and Margaret Hunter.]
Name: Elizabeth Black
Death date: 18 Oct 1917 [another source said she died 18 Oct 1918]
Age at death: 86 years
Death place: Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario
Birth date: 1831
Estimated birth year: 1831
Birth place: Edwardsburg
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widowed
Father name: Wm. Linnen
Mother name: Elizabeth
GSU film number: 1862882
Digital GS number: 4170880
Image number: 1010
Reference number: yr 1918 cn 23895
Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947

They had the following children:

  F i Margurite BLACK was born about 1852 in Ontario, Canada.
  M ii Hugh BLACK was born in 1860 in of Ontario, Canada. He died in 1900.
  M iii Adam L. BLACK was born in 1862 in of Ontario, Canada. He died in 1869.
  F iv Christina BLACK was born about 1865 in Ontario, Canada.
  M v James A. BLACK was born in 1868 in of Ontario, Canada. He died in 1931.
  F vi Nellie BLACK was born about 1867 in Ontario, Canada.
  M vii Frances BLACK was born about 1869 in Ontario, Canada.
  F viii Jennett Stewart (Jessie) BLACK was born on 24 Jul 1870 in Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

ANDERSON, --- / BLACK, JANET
--- Anderson. His wife Janet "Jessie" Black was born in August 1870, daughter to John Black and Elizabeth "Lizzie" Linnen, (to whom refer). No further records of possible offspring of this marriage are presently available.
- Frederick Linnen

Name: Jennett Stewart Black Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 29 Jul 1870
Birthplace: Edwardsburgh, Leeds and Grenville, Ontario, Canada
Death Date:Name Note:Race:
Father's Name: John Black Father's Birthplace:Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lennen Mother's Birthplace:Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04484-7 System Origin: Ontario-ODM
Source Film Number: 1844884 Reference Number:
Collection: Ontario Births and Baptisms, 1779-1899
  F ix Rachel Duff BLACK was born on 15 Apr 1872 in Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Name: Rachel Duff Black Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date:Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1872 Birthplace: Edwardsburgh, Leeds and Grenville, Ontario
Death Date:Name Note:Race: Father's Name: John Black Father's Birthplace:Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Lennan Mother's Birthplace:Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01432-8 System Origin: Ontario-ODM
Source Film Number: 1844889 Reference Number:
Collection: Ontario Births and Baptisms, 1779-1899

Robert LINNEN [Parents] was born about 1830 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 26 Mar 1885 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He married Sarah HUTCHCROFT on 19 Dec 1864 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 Record
Name: Robert Linnen Birth Place: Edwardsburg Township Residence: Edwardsburg Township
Age: 32 Father Name: Adam Linnen Mother Name: Margaret Hunter
Estimated Birth Year: 1832
Spouse Name: Sarah Hulchroft Spouse's Age: 19 Spouse Birth Place: Edwardsburg Township
Spouse Residence: Edwardsburg Township Spouse Estimated Birth Year: 1845
Spouse Father Name: Robert Hutchroft Spouse Mother Name : Sophia Cook
Marriage Date: 18 Dec 1864 Marriage Place: Prescott Marriage County: Leeds and Grenville
Family History Library Microfilm: 1030059
Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research Library

Groom's Name: Robert Linnen Groom's Birth Date: 1832 Groom's Birthplace: Edwardsburgh
Groom's Age: 32
Bride's Name: Sarah Hutchroft Bride's Birth Date: 1845 Bride's Birthplace: Edwardsburgh
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1864 Marriage Place: Leeds And Grenville, Ontario
Groom's Father's Name: Adam Linnen Groom's Mother's Name: Marg'T. Hunter
Bride's Father's Name: Robert Hutchroft Bride's Mother's Name: Sophia Cook
Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00932-7 System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1030059 Reference Number: p 30
Source Citation: "Canada, Marriages, 1661-1949," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2LV-WXG : accessed 01 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen and Sarah Hutchroft, 19 Dec 1864; citing reference p 30, FHL microfilm 1030059.

Ontario Births
Selina Linnen 15 Aug 1869 Female Leeds Robert Linnen Sarah Hutchcroft
Elizabeth Lennen 2 Aug 1871 Female Leeds Robert Lennen Mary Hutchcroft
Robert Linnen 6 Dec 1873 Male Leeds and Grenville Robert Linnen Sarah Hutchcraft
Robert Linnen 6 Dec 1873 Male Leeds Robert Linnen Sarah Hutchcraft
Albert Linnen 3 Oct 1876 Male Grenville Robert Linnen Sarah Hutchcroft
John Lennen 12 Jan 1879 Male Grenville Robert Lennen Sarah Hutchcroft
Andrew Linnen 24 Jan 1881 Male Grenville Robert Linnen Sarah Hutchcroft
William Lennen 22 Apr 1883 Male Grenville Robert Lennen Sarah Hutchcroft

The Index to the 1871 census of Ontario lists only 2 Linnens (and no Linens) as heads of households:
LINNEN , ROBERT 41 ONTARIO GRENVILLE SOUTH Edwardsburg
LINNEN , CATHARINE 58 ONTARIO CARLETON Goulbourn
[Edwardsburg is where some of the Watsons were born, and where the Simons lived, so Robert Linnen is almost certain to be a relative - probably a nephew of James and Elizabeth (or Isabella), if he was born abt 1830.]

Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index)
LINNEN , ROBERT Sex: Male Age: 41 Birthplace: ONTARIO
Religion: Church of Scotland/Kirk/Scotch Presbyterian, et
Origin: SCOTCH Occupation: FARMER

1871 census of Canada
District: GRENVILLE SOUTH ( 069 ) Sub-district: Edwardsburg (C)
Division: 2 Page: 61 Microfilm reel: C-10,004 Reference: RG31 v Statistics Canada
Linnen, Robert M 41 Ontario Presby Scotch Farmer M
Linnen, Sariah F 26 " " " M
Linnen, Presilla F 5 " " "
Linnen, Elizabeth F 2 " " "
Linnen, Margaret F 1 " " "

automatedgenealogy.com This must be them but the children's birthdates diagree
1901
District: ON GRENVILLE (South/Sud) (#63)
Subdistrict: Edwardsburg c-6 Page 4
44 44 Linnen Sarah F Head W Mar 3 1847 53
45 44 Linnen Robert M Son S Jan 11 1877 24
46 44 Linnen Albert M Son S Feb 1878 23
47 44 Linnen William M Son S Apr 11 1883 18

LINNEN, ROBERT / HUTCHCROFT, SARAH
Robert Linnen was born in or about 1830 or 1831 probably in The Hunter Settlement, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, son to Adam Linnen and Margaret Hunter, (to whom refer); died 26 March 1885 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of five days' suffering with inflammation of the lungs. His wife Sarah Hutchcroft, (to whom he was married 19 December 1864 with the Reverend William Ferrie, Presbyterian Church, officiating), was born 3 March 1845 (according to some sources) or 3 March 1847 (according to some sources and her own statement) at Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Canada West, daughter to Robert Hutchcroft and Sophia (or Sarah) Cook. This couple begat issue: (1) Priscilla Linnen, born 16 November 1865 at Augusta Township, Grenville County, Canada West (according to some sources and christening record) or at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West (according to some sources), christened 1 April 1866 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West, died 5 July 1890 at Mountain Township, Dundas County, Ontario, who married 23 December 1885 at Cardinal, Grenville County, Ontario, (with the Reverend E. W. Crane, Methodist Church, officiating), Samuel Wallace Crowder; (2) Elizabeth Linnen, born 14 September 1867 (not 2 August 1872 as erroneously suggested or indicated in some sources) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, christened 22 December 1867 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died unmarried 5 August 1892 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario in consequence of one year and two months' suffering with consumption (tuberculosis); (3) Selina Linnen, born 15 August 1869 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died probably early, probably unmarried; (4) Margaret "Maggie" Linnen, born 11 November 1870 (not 11 November 1871 as erroneously suggested or indicated in some sources and her own statement) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died 17 December 1923, who married John Campbell; (5) Adam Linnen, born 16 August 1871 (according to some sources) or 24 August 1871 (according to some sources and christening record), (not 16 August 1872 or 24 August 1872 as erroneously suggested or indicated in some sources and his own statements) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, christened 28 January 1872 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died 22 July 1932, who married 6 November 1900 at Kemptville, Grenville County, Ontario, Janet Ann Conley; (6) Robert Linnen, born 6 December 1873 (not 11 January 1877 as erroneously suggested or indicated in some sources) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died unmarried 23 April 1922 at the Ontario Hospital for the Insane, Brockville, Leeds County, Ontario in consequence of two weeks' suffering with lobar pneumonia; (7) Albert Linnen, born 3 October 1876 (not in or about February 1878 as erroneously suggested or indicated in some sources) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died unmarried 10 May 1920 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; (8) John Linnen, born 12 January 1879 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died early, unmarried; (9) Andrew Linnen, born 24 January 1881 (according to some sources and Registrar-General) or in or about February 1881 (according to some sources) at or near Pittston, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died unmarried 23 January 1913 at the Ontario Hospital for the Insane, Brockville, Leeds County, Ontario in consequence of one month's suffering with exhaustion following upon pulmonary tuberculosis of one year's duration; (10) William Linnen, born 11 April 1883 (according to some sources) or 22 April 1883 (according to some sources and Registrar-General) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died 4 August 1958 or 9 August 1958 (depending upon sources), buried at Shanly, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario.
A FAMILY ORCHARD LEAVES FROM THE HUNTER TREE.htm

Name: Robert Linnen
Death date: 26 Mar 1885
Death place: Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario
GSU film number: 1853478 Digital GS number: 4172575 Image number: 742
Reference number: cn 9066 Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947

Sarah HUTCHCROFT [Parents] was born on 3 Mar 1847 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She married Robert LINNEN on 19 Dec 1864 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

They had the following children:

  F i Priscilla LINNEN
  F ii Elizabeth LINNEN was born on 14 Sep 1867 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She was christened on 22 Dec 1867 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She died on 5 Aug 1892 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Name: Elizabeth Linnen
Death date: 05 Aug 1892
Age at death: 24 years
Death place: Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario
Estimated birth year: 1868
Birth place: Edwardsburgh
Gender: Female
GSU film number: 1853575 Digital GS number: 4032999 Image number: 1316
Reference number: yr 1892 cn 9350 Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947
  F iii Selina LINNEN was born on 15 Aug 1869 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Selina Linnen, born 15 August 1869 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died probably early, probably unmarried

Name: Selina Linnen Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1869 Birthplace: Leeds & Greenville, Ontario
Death Date: Name Note: Race:
Father's Name: Robert Linnen Father's Birthplace: Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Hutchcroft Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01418-7 System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1844883 Reference Number: item 3 cn 6130
Source Citation
"Canada, Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2F5-5XF : accessed 02 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen in entry for Selina Linnen, 15 Aug 1869; citing reference item 3 cn 6130, FHL microfilm 1844883.
  F iv Margaret LINNEN
  M v Adam LINNEN
  M vi Robert LINNEN was born on 6 Dec 1873 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 23 Apr 1922 in Brockville, Leeds, Ontario, Canada.

unmarried

Name : Robert Linnen Death date : 23 Apr 1922 Age at death : 47 years
Death place : Elizabeth, Leeds, Ontario Birth date : 1875
Estimated birth year :Birth place : Canada Gender : Male Marital status : Single
Race (Term on Certificate) : Canadian Race : White Ethnicity : Canadian
Spouse name : Spouse titles : Father name : W. Linnen [R Linnen] Father titles :
Mother name : Sarah Hutcheroft Mother titles :
GSU film number : 1907006 Digital GS number : 4171506
Image number : 774 Reference number : yr 1922 cn 18991
Collection : Ontario Deaths 1869-1947
  M vii Albert LINNEN was born on 3 Oct 1876 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 10 May 1920 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

unmarried

Name: Albert Linnen Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 03 Oct 1876 Birthplace: Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario
Death Date: Name Note: Race:
Father's Name: Robert Linnen Father's Birthplace: Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Hutchcroft Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01473-2 System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1845207 Reference Number: cn 14349
Source Citation
"Canada, Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2NT-XVK : accessed 01 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen in entry for Albert Linnen, 03 Oct 1876; citing reference cn 14349, FHL microfilm 1845207.

Name : Albert Linnen
Death date : 10 May 1920
Age at death : 44 years
Death place : Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario
Estimated birth year : 1876
Gender : Male
Father name : Robert Linnen
Mother name : Sarah Hulchcroft
GSU film number : 1863499 Digital GS number : 4170893 Image number : 159
Reference number : rn 22244 Collection : Ontario Deaths 1869-1947


Name: Albert Linnen Event: Death Event Date: 10 May 1920
Event Place: Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario Gender: Male Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: 1876
Father: Robert Linnen Mother: Sarah Hulchcroft
Spouse: Reference Number: rn 22244 Film Number: 1863499
Digital Folder Number: 4170893 Image Number: 159
Source Citation
"Ontario Deaths,1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JKWQ-85G : accessed 01 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen in entry for Albert Linnen, 1920.
  M viii John LINNEN was born on 12 Jan 1879 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Name: John Linnen Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1879 Birthplace: Edwardsburgh Twp., Grenville, Ontario
Death Date: Name Note: Race:
Father's Name: Robert Linnen Father's Birthplace: Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Hutchcroft Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01505-6 System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1845221 Reference Number: cn 14691
Source Citation
"Canada, Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2JG-5H4 : accessed 01 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen in entry for John Linnen, 12 Jan 1879; citing reference cn 14691, FHL microfilm 1845221.

died young, unmarried
  M ix Andrew LINNEN was born on 24 Jan 1881 in Pittston, Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 23 Jan 1913 in Brockville, Leeds, Ontario, Canada.

unmarried

Name: Andrew Linnen Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1881 Birthplace: Edwardsburgh, Greenville, Ontario
Death Date: Name Note: Race:
Father's Name: Robert Linnen Father's Birthplace: Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Hutchcroft Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02038-5 System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1845575 Reference Number: cn 15948
Source Citation
"Canada, Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F2PB-982 : accessed 01 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen in entry for Andrew Linnen, 24 Jan 1881; citing reference cn 15948, FHL microfilm 1845575.

Edwardsburgh Township History, Edwardsburgh Historians, 971.373 EDW in Stanley A Milner Library, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
John Simons, cooper lived on Bouseville road. Danial Simons did fine carpently work until the 1920s.
[obviously a different John Simons but probably related.]
p. 227
Cowdreys' Hill or Glen Smail
1818 George Washington Cowdrey
1819 Abdrew and Janet Spiers Hunter
1819 Mary Hunter married William Smail
A third daughter, Margaret [Hunter] married Adam Linnen, who had purchased the west half of Lot 22 Concession 5 on Pittston Road in 1833. After Adam's death she married Richard Welsh who lived in the stone house on Cowdrey's Hill facing Pittston Road.
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Store on the SE corner was constructed by Andrew Linnen
p. 230 Richard Welsh and John Linnen were custromers of Andrew Smail
p. 260 photo of John Black (in a full white beard) and Andrew Linnen
p. 284 Billy Linnen Road ... now a lovers' lane
p. 247 In the late 1860s George Linnen purchased part of L18 C6. George was a stone mason and built his home, now known as Lone Oak. He worked on St Andrews Presbyterian church and St Laurence O'toole church at Spencerville.


Name: Andrew Linnin
Death date: 23 Jan 1913
Age at death: 32 years
Death place: Brockville, Leeds, Ontario
Estimated birth year: 1881
Birth place: Pittston, Ontario
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Father name: Robert Linnin
Mother name: Sarah Hutchcroft
GSU film number: 1854934 Digital GS number: 4176385 Image number: 1556
Reference number: yr 1913 cn 19783 Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947
  M x William LINNEN was born on 22 Apr 1883 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 4 Aug 1958. He was buried in Shanley, Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada.

Name: William Linnen Event: Birth Event Date: 22 Apr 1883
Event Place: Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville, Ontario
Gender: Male Father: Robert Linnen Mother: Sarah Hutchcroft
Registration Year: Registration Number: cn 16989 Film Number: 1845586
Digital Folder Number: 4529987 Image Number: 128
Source Citation
"Ontario Births, 1869-1912," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FM7H-BXF : accessed 02 Aug 2012), Robert Linnen in entry for William Linnen, 1883.

This might be him.
1911 / Ontario / Grenville / 15 Edwardsburg / page 4
1 37 Millar Jean F Daughter S Jul 1886 24
2 37 Millar Agnes F Daughter S Aug 1890 20
3 37 Muligan Margaret F Lodger S May 1886 25
4 37 Limmin William M Domestic S Apr 1883 28

George LINNEN [Parents] was born about 1838 in Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He died on 6 Apr 1900 in Spencerville, Edwardsburgh twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. He was buried in St. Andrews Cemetery, Edwardsburg, Ontario, Canada. He married Susannah DAVIS about 1860 in of Edwardsburg, Ontario, Canada.

Patty Hopkinson says in 2001:
George Linnen, b 1838; d 6 APR 1900; bur St. Andrew's Cemetery, Edwardsburgh; m Susanna Davis (bc 1840; d 25 JUL 1922). Susanna was the daughter of J. Davis who lived on Lot 18, concession 6. They lived opposite her parents on the north side of present day Rock Street. He was a well known stone mason and carpenter. He build the house now know as Lone Oak (formerly known as the Linnen home). (L7, L9) Had:
(50)+ Robert Henry Linnen, bc 1863; d 1909; bur St. Andrew's Cemetery, Edwardsburgh.
(51)+ Margaret Letitish (Tish) Linnen, b 1865; d 1931; bur St. Andrew's Cemetery, Edwardsburgh.
(52) Jane Linnen
(53) Ida Bell Linnen, bc 1878; d 1 SEP 1902.
(54) Alva (Alvie) Linnen, bc 1890. Some reports were that Alvie disappeared and was never heard from again, yet records indicate he was a bachelor and buried at St. Andrew's Cemetery.

George Linnen, a mere infant at the time of his father's heroic though tragic and untimely death, and afterward the master stonemason who constructed both the Presbyterian and Roman Catholic churches at Spencerville. So sturdy were the walls he erected with his own hands that they endured and withstood even the fiery conflagration which engulfed St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church nearly a century after its completion, standing gutted but intact, and in the newly-reconstructed interior today a plaque has been mounted to the memory of this durable builder of a bygone era.

1881 Canadian Census
Name Marital Status Gender Ethnic Origin Age Birthplace Occupation Religion
George LENNON M Male Scottish 43 O <Ontario> Stone Mason Presbyterian
Susanna LENNON M Female Scottish 40 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Robert LENNON Male Scottish 17 O <Ontario> Son Presbyterian
Lerturer LENNON Female Scottish 15 O <Ontario> Presbyterian [Letitia?]
Jane LENNON Female Scottish 8 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
Bell LENNON Female Scottish 3 O <Ontario> Presbyterian
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Source Information: Census Place Edwardsburg, Grenville South, Ontario
Family History Library Film 1375866 NA Film Number C-13230
District 106 Sub-district C Division 2 Page Number 41 Household Number 174

I believe these are the 1901 census records of the family of George Linnen, the stone mason whom Patty recently wrote to us about. According to my records, he died in 1900, so he is not in the census. See what you think. I show five children, and these records account for all five, plus several grandchildren. Note - the William Cummings, Lodger, may be Jane's husband, but I haven't connect them up yet. She might have just been visiting her mother when the census was taken. - >From <http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html> Sep 2004: Page Information District: ON GRENVILLE (South/Sud) (#63) Subdistrict: Edwardsburg c-5 Page 8 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6468 Transcriber: Mary Lou Fry 14 79 Linnen Susanah F Head W Jun 21 1840 60 Ont Irish Farmer 15 79 Linnen Ida B. F Daughter S Nov 30 1877 23 Ont Scotch 16 79 Linnen Alva W. M Son S Feb 10 1884 17 Ont Scotch 17 79 Cummings Jane F Daughter M May 30 1872 28 Ont Scotch 18 79 Cummings Edith F Granddaughter S Mar 18 1896 5 Ont Scotch - >From <http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html> Sep 2004: Page Information District: ON GRENVILLE (South/Sud) (#63) Subdistrict: Edwardsburg c-5 Pages 7 & 8 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6468 Transcriber: Mary Lou Fry 47 76 Linnen Robert M Head M Aug 17 1863 37 Ont Scotch Farmer 48 77 Linnen Charlotte F Wife M Apr 15 1866 35 Ont English 49 77 Linnen Helena V. F Daughter S Jan 24 1889 12 Ont 50 77 Linnen Angus H. M Son S Jan 10 1892 9 Ont 1 78 Linnen Harry M Son S Sep 13 1893 7 2 77 Linnen George M Son S Aug 2 1895 5 3 77 Linnen James M Son S May 12 1897 3 4 77 Linnen Franklin M Son S Jul 4 1899 1 5 77 Cummings William M Lodger M May 9 1870 30 - >From <http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html> Sep 2004: Page Information District: ON GRENVILLE (South/Sud) (#63) Subdistrict: Edwardsburg c-6 Page 4 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6468 Transcriber: Mary Lou Fry 31 41 Martin Andrew M Head M Jan 8 1864 37 Ont Scotch Farmer 32 41 Martin Miciah [Leticiah?] F Wife M Jun 21 1865 34 Ont 33 41 Martin Clara B. F Daughter S Sep 1 1894 6 Ont Student 34 41 Martin Jessie C. F Daughter S Dec 29 1898 2 Ont - Barry Snider

10) George Linnen (designer and builder of numerous historic structures, etc.), born in or about 1837 or 1838 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 22, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, died 6 April 1900, buried in 1900 at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married Susannah Davis.
- Frederick Hunter

Ontario Births
Ida Bell Lennen 30 Nov 1877 Female Grenville George Lennen Susannah Davis
Jane Teressa Linnen 30 May 1872 Female Leeds and Grenville George Linnen Susannah Davis
Alva Willard Linnens 10 Feb 1884 Male Grenville George Linnens Susannah Davis

From Frederick Hunter
LINNEN, GEORGE / DAVIS, SUSANNAH
George Linnen (designer and builder of numerous historic structures, etc.) was born in or about 1837 or 1838 probably in The Hunter Settlement, probably on Lot 22, Concession 5, Edwardsburgh Township, Johnstown Municipal District, Upper Canada, son to Adam Linnen and Margaret Hunter, (to whom refer); died 6 April 1900; buried in 1900 at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. His wife Susannah Davis was born 21 June 1840 in Upper Canada; died 25 July 1922 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; buried in July 1922 at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario. This couple begat issue: (1) Robert Henry Linnen, born 16 August 1863 (according to some sources) or 17 August 1863 (according to some sources and his own statement) in Canada West, died 2 December 1919, buried at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married Charlotte A. Mumby; (2) Margaret Letitia "Tish" Linnen, born 21 June 1865 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Canada West, died 16 September 1931, buried at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married Andrew Martin; (3) Jane Teressa Linnen, born 30 May 1872 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, who married 4 February 1892 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, her second cousin once removed (through two lines of descent) William Cummings; (4) Ida Belle Linnen, born 30 November 1877 at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, died unmarried 1 September 1902, buried at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario; (5) Alva Willard "Alvie" Linnen, born 10 February 1884 or 10 February 1885 (depending upon sources) at Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, allegedly died unmarried in Western Canada during a harvest excursion, being allegedly buried at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Churchyard, Spencerville, Edwardsburgh Township, Grenville County, Ontario, but in reality died 13 November 1957 at Denver, Denver County, Colorado and buried in November 1957 at Denver, Denver County, Colorado, having married 5 July 1916 at Denver, Denver County, Colorado, Alberta Parke.


Edwardsburgh Township History, Edwardsburgh Historians, 971.373 EDW in Stanley A Milner Library, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
John Simons, cooper lived on Bouseville road. Danial Simons did fine carpently work until the 1920s.
[obviously a different John Simons but probably related.]
p. 227
Cowdreys' Hill or Glen Smail
1818 George Washington Cowdrey
1819 Andrew and Janet Spiers Hunter
1819 Mary Hunter married William Smail
A third daughter, Margaret [Hunter] married Adam Linnen, who had purchased the west half of Lot 22 Concession 5 on Pittston Road in 1833. After Adam's death she married Richard Welsh who lived in the stone house on Cowdrey's Hill facing Pittston Road.
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Store on the SE corner was constructed by Andrew Linnen
p. 230 Richard Welsh and John Linnen were custromers of Andrew Smail
p. 260 photo of John Black (in a full white beard) and Andrew Linnen
p. 284 Billy Linnen Road ... now a lovers' lane
p. 247 In the late 1860s George Linnen purchased part of L18 C6. George was a stone mason and built his home, now known as Lone Oak. He worked on St Andrews Presbyterian church and St Laurence O'toole church at Spencerville.

Name: George Lennen
Death date: 06 Apr 1900
Age at death: 63 years
Death place: Edwardsburgh, Grenville, Ontario
Estimated birth year: 1837
Birth place: Edwardsburgh
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
GSU film number: 1854395 Digital GS number: 4174874 Image number: 725
Reference number: 015251 Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947

Susannah DAVIS [Parents] was born on 21 Jun 1840 in Edwardsburgh Twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She died on 25 Jul 1922 in Edwardsburgh Twp, Grenville, Ontario, Canada. She married George LINNEN about 1860 in of Edwardsburg, Ontario, Canada.

Name: Susanna Linnen
Death date: 25 Jul 1922 Age at death: 82 years Death place: Edwardsburg, Grenville, Ontario
Estimated birth year: 1840 Birth place: Edwardsburg Gender: Female
Father name: Henry Davis Mother name: Elizabeth Davis
GSU film number: 1907006 Digital GS number: 4171506 Image number: 755
Reference number: yr 1922 cn 18945 Collection: Ontario Deaths 1869-1947

They had the following children:

  M i Robert Henry LINNEN
  F ii Letitia Margaret (Tish) LINNEN
  F iii Jane Teressa LINNEN
  F iv Ida Bell LINNEN was born on 30 Nov 1877 in Edwardsburg, Ontario, Canada. She died on 1 Sep 1902.

14497-77 (Leeds & Grenville Co) LINNEN (Linen ?), Ida Bell, f, b. Nov. 30, 1877, father – George LINNEN, mason, mother – Susannah DAVIS, infm – George Linnen, Edwardsburgh
  M v Alva Willard LINNEN

Charles Robert BUCHANAN [Parents] was born on 10 Sep 1877 in Elma Twp, Perth, Ontario, Canada. He died in 1952. He married Luella REILLY.

Transcription -
Schedule A. - Births
County of Perth, Division of Elma
023215 No. 21
Date of birth: September 10th, 1877
Name: Charles Robert Buchanan
Sex: M
Father: Thomas Buchanan
Mother's maiden name: Ellen Cochrane
Profession of Father : Labourer
Signature and residence: Thomas Buchanan, Farmer, Elma
When registered: October 2nd, 1877
Name of accoucheur: Dr. Nichol
Signature of registrar: Thos. Fullarton

Name: Charles Robert Buchanan Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1877
Birthplace: Elma, Perth, Ontario Death Date: Name Note: Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Buchanan Father's Birthplace: Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ellen Cockrane Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01486-8 System Origin: Canada-EASy
Source Film Number: 1845213 Reference Number: no21, cn23215, pg416
Collection: Canada Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959

I found Charles Robert Buchanan in the 1901 census. He was living in Ochre River, MacDonald District, Manitoba, Canada. He was boarding with a James Ritchey family. His birthdate was given as Sept. 10, 1877 in Ontario. He was single and gave his occupation as a commercial traveller. Still searching for the rest of the Buchanan family. - Hilary Machan
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MB MACDONALD (#8)
Subdistrict: Ochre River j-1 Page 2
5 10 Buchanan Charles M Lodger S Sep 10 1877 23

1911 Census of Canada
Manitoba / Marquette / 54 Township 19 in ranges 23 / page 3
28 27 Buchanan(?) Robert M Head M Sep 1880 31 [Ont Irish Canadian Presb illegible]
29 27 Buchanan(?) Liulla(?) F Wife M May 1888 23 [USA Irish Canadian Presb]
30 27 Buchanan(?) ?illena(?) F Daughter S Sep 1906 5 [Manitoba Irish Canadian Presb]
31 27 Buchanan(?) Mabel F Daughter S Sep 1907 4 [Manitoba Irish Canadian Presb]
32 27 Buchanan(?) Thomas M Son S Apr 1908 3 [Manitoba Irish Canadian Presb]
33 27 Buchanan(?) Margaret F Daughter S Aug 1909 2 [Manitoba Irish Canadian Presb]
34 27 Buchanan(?) Ellen(?) F Daughter S Oct 1910 7 m [Manitoba Irish Canadian Presb]
35 27 McKinnon Alex M Lodger S Apr 1884 27
36 27 Buchannan Stanley M Brother S Dec 1890 20 [Manitoba Irish Canadian Presb]

Luella REILLY was born in May 1888 in USA. She married Charles Robert BUCHANAN.

They had the following children:

  F i Jennie "Helen" BUCHANAN
  F ii Mabel Christena BUCHANAN
  M iii Thomas BUCHANAN
  M iv Carl BUCHANAN
  F v Margaret BUCHANAN
  M vi Alfred Ellis (Stacy) BUCHANAN
  M vii Stanley BUCHANAN
  F viii Winona BUCHANAN
  F ix Dorcas BUCHANAN
  F x Dorothy BUCHANAN
  F xi Ruth BUCHANAN
  M xii Ernest BUCHANAN

John LINNEN was born about 1680 in of Greenlaw, Berwickshire, Scotland.

This one uses the spelling LINNEN, but the same father has a later son William Linen, as pointed out by Katrina Moir.
Scottish Church Records 2.O2 24 JUN 2OO3
FULL RECORD OF INDIVIDUAL (Including Source)
William LINNEN Sex: M
FATHER'S INFORMATION
Name: John LINNEN
INDIVIDUAL INFORMATION
Christening
25 Apr 1714
Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Frame 22 & 261

Scottish Church Records 2.O2 24 JUN 2OO3
FULL RECORD OF INDIVIDUAL (Including Source)
William LINEN Sex: M
FATHER'S INFORMATION
Name: John LINEN
INDIVIDUAL INFORMATION
Christening
24 Oct 1718
Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Frame 26 & 262

Scottish Church Records 2.O2 24 JUN 2OO3
FULL RECORD OF MARRIAGE (Including Source)
John LINNEN Sex: M
Spouse: Katherin SHEIR Sex: F
Marriage
26 Apr 1705
Eccles, Berwick, Scotland
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Frame 12O

Hi Bill,
It has been a very long time since I have contacted you...I have been doing some more research into the Linnens, and I found a William Linnen who could have also been the man we descended from...his father was also John Linnen christened October 24, 1718 along with his twin brother Thomas in Greenlaw, Berwickshire. I was wondering if you are definite that the William Linnen b 1714 is our ancestor? I am just curious, as it surprised me to find 2 williams born within 4 years of each other...but no death record for the first one...which happens sometimes, as it has in a couple of my other lines they used the same first name again for future children.
Also, have you been able to figure out where the Linnens came from...John just suddenly appears and has 3 children? The only possible that I found was in England with the last name Linin. I would really like to bang our heads together to see what we can come up with, as I haven't found any linnens prior to 1670 in Scotland.
Thank you so much!
Katrina

An Old Berwickshire Town: History of the Town and Parish of Greenlaw, from ... By Robert Gibson
http://books.google.ca/books?id=qRy0esZS6h4C&lpg=PA132&ots=pxJOYOrmS_&dq=Linen%20Greenlaw%20Scotland&pg=PA132#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Referring to historic stones of the 1700s:
"Another stone of somewhat elaborate ornamentation and sculpture is to the memory of the Linen family."
(The book has no photo or transcription of it.)

The book refers to "James Linen and William Halliday" in December 1652 on page 82, so the Linnen family was in Greenlaw at least that far back in time.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/BEW/Greenlaw/index.html says: The parish church (Church of Scotland) has parish registers dating from 1699.


The first question that I get asked in relation to my research is: “How far back have you gone?”.
The answer to that question is that I have traced the Linnen line back to John Linnen in Greenlaw,
Berwickshire, Scotland. I can estimate that his birthdate would have been in the 1600’s. Unfortunately, I have yet to discover the name of his wife, or their date of marriage.
His son William Linnen was born in 1714, and was christened April 25, 1714 in Greenlaw Parish,
Greenlaw, Berwickshire, Scotland.
William and his wife, Isobel Home, had 5 sons: Alexander, John, David, Wililam, and George.
My only problem is that I do not have many death records, and there are several Linnen’s in that
area. I am against picking a random record and applying that information to our ancestors because if
it doesn’t make sense to me, then it more than likely is incorrect.
Adam Linnen, son to David, is the first of that line to come to Canada as far as I can see.
-
Katrina Moir

He had the following children:

  M i William LINNEN was christened on 25 Apr 1714 in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland.
  M ii William LINNEN
  M iii Thomas LINNEN was christened on 24 Oct 1718 in Greenlaw, Berwickshire, Scotland.

John HUNTER was born in of Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland. He married Margaret PATRICK on 6 May 1763 in Sorn Parish, Ayr, Scotland.

From http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~database/HUNTER.htm
Descended on his father's side from the ancient and noble Ayrshire House and Family of Hunter of Hunterston, Andrew was formally christened according to the rites and ceremonies of the Established Kirk of Scotland at Sorn on 26 February 1764, being the firstborn son and second child to John Hunter and Margaret Patrick who had been married there on 6 May preceding and who at the time of his birth were residing at North Catrine in that Parish. In accordance with an old traditional Scots custom and practice staunchly observed and adhered to by the Hunters until 1880 even in Canada, Andrew, as the eldest son, bore his paternal grandfather's forename.

Margaret PATRICK was born in of Sorn, Ayrshire, Scotland. She married John HUNTER on 6 May 1763 in Sorn Parish, Ayr, Scotland.

They had the following children:

  M i Andrew HUNTER

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